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== Consolidating OS dependent text == | |||
There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading? | There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and '''only''' the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading? | ||
--[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]] | --[[User:Jonmack|jonmack]] | ||
Probably a good idea. | |||
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again. | |||
--[[User:Fellice|Fellice]] 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT) | |||
Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents): | |||
1. General | |||
* Do command A...<br> | |||
* Do command C...<br> | |||
* Do command E...<br> | |||
1.1 '''W'''in | |||
* Do command B-'''W'''...<br> | |||
* Do command D-'''W'''...<br> | |||
1.2 '''M'''ac | |||
* Do command B-'''M'''...<br> | |||
* Do command D-'''M'''...<br> | |||
1.2 '''U'''nix | |||
* Do command B-'''U'''...<br> | |||
*Do command D-'''U'''...<br> | |||
--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity. | |||
An option: | |||
1. General | |||
* Do command A...<br> | |||
* <links to B-W, B-M, B-U><br> | |||
* Do command C...<br> | |||
* <links to D-W, D-M, D-U><br> | |||
* Do command E...<br> | |||
1.1 '''W'''in | |||
* <link to A><br> | |||
* Do command B-'''W'''...<br> | |||
* <link to C><br> | |||
* Do command D-'''W'''...<br> | |||
* <link to E><br> | |||
...and so on... | |||
--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least. | |||
However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands. | |||
--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT) | |||
As far as i know most of what is done in one OS is done almost the same in the others when it comes to set up and updating (commands to get to them might change) | |||
--illori | |||
== Hints == | |||
* 1. "Chaptering" with automatic TOC works in the discussion as well | |||
* 2. It's good wiki style to sign discussion contributions with two hyphens followed by four tildes:<nowiki> --~~~ </nowiki>. This automatically adds your user name, or your IP if you're not loggged in, and date & time. | |||
--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 05:12, 29 September 2006 (EDT) | |||
== Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"? == | |||
Since this is what it actually contains. | |||
--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 15:56, 1 October 2006 (EDT) | |||
I think it's a good idea to rename the chapters from counters like Players_Guide_Chapter_1 to their actual name (in this case " Installation"). I don't see a reason for the current titles as the numbers are given in the TOC. | |||
Suggestions? --[[User:Kerol|Kerol]] 07:54, 2 October 2006 (EDT) | |||
Agreed, good idea! (Is there a wiki-wide update-link-when-link-target-changes-function? ) | |||
I also recommend to omit the big fat headings with links to the other chapters. A separate "Related Links" chapter looks much nicer. | |||
Another suggestions: Transforming the main chapters (I. - VI., App. A, B) into categories and divide the LONG pages into several pages, so that one sub-chapter at 2nd level (e.g. 1.1) equals 1 page belonging to the appropriate category. | |||
--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 12:47, 3 October 2006 (EDT) | |||
Geri We are working on dividing the pages as you said look at what we have so far for Players_Guide_Chapter_2 | |||
--illori 13:57, 3 October 2006 (EDT) | |||
I see! That's what came into my mind, too: Transforming the main chapters into link pages to sub-chapters. Perfect! So, I think it will be OK if I transfer Combat, Magic, NPCs, Cheating to their own pages. | |||
And: Does this apply to the other main chapters as well? | |||
--[[User:Geri|Geri]] 17:54, 3 October 2006 (EDT) | |||
It is for all the chapters just the main sections like chapter 2 (for what i have done so far) | |||
--illori 18:46, 3 October 2006 (EDT) |
Latest revision as of 00:20, 9 March 2007
Consolidating OS dependent text
There is a lot of redundant text in this page. Each subheading for the different operating systems had almost identical text, with only a slight variation (commands to use). Does anyone agree that it would be clearer if each sub-heading was re-written to be a general account, and only the OS variances separated out in a sub-sub-heading?
--jonmack
Probably a good idea.
Maybe you should edit the section on a different page, change it along your ideas and then we all have a look at it and compare with the old layout. If the new layout is generally accepted we can either reditect or copy the content over the old page and delete the work-page again.
--Fellice 09:59, 24 September 2006 (EDT)
Basically a good idea. But, imagine the following (theoretically, I didn't check whether this can happen with the current contents):
1. General
- Do command A...
- Do command C...
- Do command E...
1.1 Win
- Do command B-W...
- Do command D-W...
1.2 Mac
- Do command B-M...
- Do command D-M...
1.2 Unix
- Do command B-U...
- Do command D-U...
--> Not very straightforward, compared to the actual activity.
An option:
1. General
- Do command A...
- <links to B-W, B-M, B-U>
- Do command C...
- <links to D-W, D-M, D-U>
- Do command E...
1.1 Win
- <link to A>
- Do command B-W...
- <link to C>
- Do command D-W...
- <link to E>
...and so on...
--> Still not straightforward, but with quicker jumping at least.
However, both could be too sophisticated for the "normal" user. Maybe even worse if not all OSs need the same type of commands.
--Geri 14:51, 28 September 2006 (EDT)
As far as i know most of what is done in one OS is done almost the same in the others when it comes to set up and updating (commands to get to them might change)
--illori
Hints
- 1. "Chaptering" with automatic TOC works in the discussion as well
- 2. It's good wiki style to sign discussion contributions with two hyphens followed by four tildes: --~~~ . This automatically adds your user name, or your IP if you're not loggged in, and date & time.
--Geri 05:12, 29 September 2006 (EDT)
Renaming Chapter I. from "Installation" to "Installation and Configuration" or "Installation and Setup"?
Since this is what it actually contains.
--Geri 15:56, 1 October 2006 (EDT)
I think it's a good idea to rename the chapters from counters like Players_Guide_Chapter_1 to their actual name (in this case " Installation"). I don't see a reason for the current titles as the numbers are given in the TOC. Suggestions? --Kerol 07:54, 2 October 2006 (EDT)
Agreed, good idea! (Is there a wiki-wide update-link-when-link-target-changes-function? )
I also recommend to omit the big fat headings with links to the other chapters. A separate "Related Links" chapter looks much nicer.
Another suggestions: Transforming the main chapters (I. - VI., App. A, B) into categories and divide the LONG pages into several pages, so that one sub-chapter at 2nd level (e.g. 1.1) equals 1 page belonging to the appropriate category.
--Geri 12:47, 3 October 2006 (EDT)
Geri We are working on dividing the pages as you said look at what we have so far for Players_Guide_Chapter_2
--illori 13:57, 3 October 2006 (EDT)
I see! That's what came into my mind, too: Transforming the main chapters into link pages to sub-chapters. Perfect! So, I think it will be OK if I transfer Combat, Magic, NPCs, Cheating to their own pages.
And: Does this apply to the other main chapters as well?
--Geri 17:54, 3 October 2006 (EDT)
It is for all the chapters just the main sections like chapter 2 (for what i have done so far)
--illori 18:46, 3 October 2006 (EDT)