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-- [[User:Quantus|Quantus]] 08:13, 8 February 2007 (EST) I would like to work a bit for the Ynnwn language, but I'm not sure about the history. They are a crossing of Dermorians, Nolthrir (Elves) and Diaboli. So here is my question: Is the language an | -- [[User:Quantus|Quantus]] 08:13, 8 February 2007 (EST) I would like to work a bit for the Ynnwn language, but I'm not sure about the history. They are a crossing of Dermorians, Nolthrir (Elves) and Diaboli. So here is my question: Is the language an oen one or an mixture of these 3 languages? | ||
I wonder if Ynnwns would actually be fluent in both languages by default, or in fact in any language other than common. The reason is that if we accept that "race-specific languages have been obliterated and are only recently being rediscovered by linguists", then there is no reason for any present-day Ynnwn to be taught anything other than common. Maybe in rare cases where one or both parents actually are deeply into languages, but then that'll be the parent's preference which may not even be their own "native" language. | |||
Anything that might be taken as "Ynnwn language" would therefore be a past thing and the relationship between parent exposure and language preference drawn on the page would have to be relegated to the past, simply because, today, both parents will only speak common except for rare cases. | |||
If the "Ynnwn language" is defined to be "Diaboli vocabulary with <elvish> grammar", then this is never going to be a full language, since obviously most words would be from the <elven> language (otherwise, using it's grammar instead of the Diaboli grammar would not make sense). | |||
Thus, it might be better to define this as "differences / additions compared to the <elven> language". This would remove the pressure of adding sufficiant words to actually be able to form complete sentences, which would result in the patchwork of additional options that would seem most reasonable. | |||
However, because the two elven languages are so radically different, one would more or less have to define the differences for both languages. One would also have to conclude that two Ynnwns, one with a Dermorian parent and the other with a Nolthrir parent, might not have been able to communicate _except via the Diaboli language (including grammar)_! This might lead to the Diaboli language actually being the base for whatever Ynnwn language may be thought up... --[[User:Seytra|Seytra]] 03:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
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-- Quantus 08:13, 8 February 2007 (EST) I would like to work a bit for the Ynnwn language, but I'm not sure about the history. They are a crossing of Dermorians, Nolthrir (Elves) and Diaboli. So here is my question: Is the language an oen one or an mixture of these 3 languages?
I wonder if Ynnwns would actually be fluent in both languages by default, or in fact in any language other than common. The reason is that if we accept that "race-specific languages have been obliterated and are only recently being rediscovered by linguists", then there is no reason for any present-day Ynnwn to be taught anything other than common. Maybe in rare cases where one or both parents actually are deeply into languages, but then that'll be the parent's preference which may not even be their own "native" language.
Anything that might be taken as "Ynnwn language" would therefore be a past thing and the relationship between parent exposure and language preference drawn on the page would have to be relegated to the past, simply because, today, both parents will only speak common except for rare cases.
If the "Ynnwn language" is defined to be "Diaboli vocabulary with <elvish> grammar", then this is never going to be a full language, since obviously most words would be from the <elven> language (otherwise, using it's grammar instead of the Diaboli grammar would not make sense).
Thus, it might be better to define this as "differences / additions compared to the <elven> language". This would remove the pressure of adding sufficiant words to actually be able to form complete sentences, which would result in the patchwork of additional options that would seem most reasonable.
However, because the two elven languages are so radically different, one would more or less have to define the differences for both languages. One would also have to conclude that two Ynnwns, one with a Dermorian parent and the other with a Nolthrir parent, might not have been able to communicate _except via the Diaboli language (including grammar)_! This might lead to the Diaboli language actually being the base for whatever Ynnwn language may be thought up... --Seytra 03:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)